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"baxter"
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 Posted - 01/25/2009 : 4:28:30 PM
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The "experts" (Mike Peters and his followers) in "Meetings in His Kingdom"(http://churchinindianapolis.blogspot.com/) are seemingly trying harder to draw the "house church movement" under their influence with their House Church website, www.housechurch.com. They also have a sponsored link to help them do this when someone would do a search for "house church"...
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And as we know, "attendence based" gatherings were condemned by Mike Peters and his followers and, of course, "house church" isn't getting it right either...
"Small Groups? Open Church?
Home Fellowships?
In a world characterized by endless fads, innumerable books and catchy buzz words—yet often times resulting in tragically shallow, broken lives and relationships... DON’T ACCEPT ANYTHING LESS than the Quality of Life of JESUS CHRIST Himself and His Daily Friendship with those who walk with Him, too."
One of the underlying factors that made things so unpleasant in Indy was that you could NEVER seem to be pleasing to God. Everyday was an unbearable task of jumping through hoops and striving in an unhealthy way to somehow be right with God. It was something that would manifest itself by your approval with the leaders and the elite. If you didn't please them, you didn't please God.
However, it isn't HOW you have church that makes you pleasing to God. It's whether or not you are trying to live by the Spirit of God or the flesh. Romans 8, Galatians 6, I Thess. 4
And that we walk in faith. Heb. 11
There was very little ENCOURAGEMENT, very little mentioning of the kindness and patience of the Lord. Very little to cause you to worship and praise the God who shows mercy and loves us SO much he sent his son. The fruit of that was such that I recall turning to a brother and saying to him (having been spiritually beaten and shattered in faith), "There is not a word you can say to me that would bring encouragement." My soul and spirit had been ravaged by the spiritual abuse of an arrogant, dominating, controlling, manipulating leader known as Mike Peters and those who do his bidding.
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Edited by - "baxter" on 01/25/2009 7:08:06 PM |
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"baxter"
Moderator
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Posted - 01/25/2009 : 5:24:09 PM
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Also, if you google "house church", Mike Peter's site comes up first in the listing (at least for now). And he is sure to include every name in the whole gammit that might be searched and imply that it is probably a "fad"...
House church? Home church? Home group? Simple church? Christian ... -Tired of the fads involving house church, home group, simple church? How to start fresh—letting JESUS be Living Lord!
www.housechurch.com/ - 16k - Cached - Similar pages -
By his very advertisement he has implied that Jesus is NOT the living Lord. But he is sure to show you how that can be. It's a mystery, folks, that has only been "whispered" in the ear of a select few...
http://www.factnet.org/discus/messages/3/18551.html?1200341284
Posted on Monday, March 20, 2006 - 2:03 pm:
aging_mom
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Username: aging_mom
Post Number: 6
Registered: 3-2006
Posted From: 67.0.58.22
"Here is an excerpt from page 83 (last page of PDF download):
[http://books.allathisfeet.com/organic_church_life.cfm?id=29955]
'A question was asked recently—
“concerning these things of which we have spoken—the Priesthood of Believers, how to be closer to Jesus, and what a church really is-- are we far behind other places? Do people in other countries already know these things and walk in them?”
I want you to know your great responsibility because you are some of the first people on earth to know these things and be called to walk in them. There are very few people in any country that understand these truths of God. God has commissioned you to go forth with His Word also. To all places that are near you, go and spread the news of God’s Holy Kingdom. God has chosen you as special with a special message. Very few people in India or Poland or anywhere else on earth know what you know about God’s heart. God whispered these things in your ear about His Church so that you can live these things and spread these things. Will you accept this commission to go forth? The gospel of God’s Kingdom must go into every nation. And then the end will come! You have a job to do preparing the Bride. I hope you will have great courage and great faith to do this.'"
"Some of the first people"? So does that mean that no one since Peter has known what is the will of God? Or does it BEGIN with Mike Peters? Is HE the petra that Jesus spoke about?
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danrepent
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Posted - 01/25/2009 : 11:14:58 PM
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I like this quote. I've been trying to express this for many years.:
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Christians who have finally figured out the dangers of the teachings and traditions of men are leaving the institutional church in favor of house churches. Praise God. But the devil is right there to ruin as many as he can. There are many authoritarian house churches that are nothing more than mini institutional churches dominated by ambitious men. These places have pretty much the same trappings as larges churches but just on a much smaller scale. So I have found that it is usually better to plant than to search.
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enochrull
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Posted - 06/29/2009 : 02:38:36 AM
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"baxter"
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Posted - 06/29/2009 : 7:30:45 PM
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Hello, Enochrull,
I apologize, but your message is somewhat obscurred. To whom are you addressing? Are you asking us why we don't want to live in the presence of Jesus? Where did you get the idea that we don't? What makes you think we do not listen to God's word? Mike's teachings may have some scriptures, but they are twisted in order to manipulate those he lords over. Been there...seen the fruit, not good. He'd never go public. He works and woos in the shadows as he tries to convince unsuspecting souls of their great movement. But watch out, no one makes it obvious when they set a trap to catch someone. There are plenty of people whose hearts have been spiritually broken because of the abuse in this group. Many testimonies are here. You have never met Mike, you say, you should listen to the warnings here of us who have.
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"baxter"
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Posted - 07/22/2009 : 02:02:25 AM
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I found another new site with a picture of a group of people and "yours truly". On the first page in something written from 2006, Mike or one of his clones mentions here...(http://www.HomeChurchMovement.com)
"Journey with us in these discussions on three Continents, with church leaders, seminary professors, pastors, missionaries, teachers, homemakers, mothers, tradesmen, professionals, the very old and the very young. Here, Together, we'll see JESUS ALONE High and Lifted up. And IN Y'SHUA, we will be able to "participate in the Divine Nature" with intertwined daily lives with Him and those who are Indwelt by Him as truly Saved. HE will lead us into a Life with HIM, and that resulting LIFE TOGETHER will transform all of us "average" people into His Image, day by day. This is the "Body Life" "Together Life" Christianity of the Bible—the Miracle of walking out the CROSS for Him and one another in the daily details of our lives. JESUS never taught or walked anything like "attendance-based religion." Not then, not now. He lives with and in us, "as we rise up, as we sit down, as we walk along the way" as "a HUNDRED MOTHERS, BROTHERS, and SISTERS" all living in Him and "one another" in their days and evenings and weekends, hearts, loyalties, routines, and in holiness. That is the "Christ-ianity" Jesus brought to this planet Earth, demonstrating it with the Twelve and the "three thousand in a single day," teaching it, and empowering it by HIS Spirit. Christianity—the CHURCH!
Those who "would not have made it" half of the time in "attendance-based religion" can GROW in the Lamb of God to become a kingdom of priests, useful and wise, in Christ's character and patience and holiness. Whatever we WOULD have been is multiplied, marriages saved, children presented WHOLE before the Throne of God in their daily lives, rather than the "75%" in religion who bow before satan's throne instead, even though "religious" in a so-called House Church or Youth Group."
I especially wanted to make note of the "three thousand in a single day". How long have they existed in Indy? 20 plus years he boasts in various places. And WHERE is this "three thousand in a single day" living? Well, they won't be needing a bigger subdivision. If you were to count up all his followers, I would bet you would be unlucky enough to find 1000 let alone 3000. He always tries to make themselves look bigger than they actually are. Search the internet and see. Who is talking about them out there in cyber land? The google searches are usually just their OWN links to themselves. REALLY...check it out.
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Bunny Bateman
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Posted - 08/18/2009 : 02:40:14 AM
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It is wonderful living in the presence of Jesus!! The ones listening to Mike Peters are listening to the WRONG voice. HIS VOICE makes the difference. That is the voice of our Lord...not Mike Peters. Follow the weird things going on there. I have watched my daughter come under this mind control for 20 years. I have talked to the FBI and to the Indianapolis authorities. Believe me, the FBI knows all about the group. Hmmmm...Jesus said, "Whosoever will come unto HIM..." I don't recall where the Scripture says Mike Peters has to be the go between. Interesting though how my daughter was so controlling and abusive of her family, but then she came under control. Bunny
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Originally posted by enochrull
why you dont want to live in the presence of Jesus and sometimes stop and listen to his word, not your pride and self knowledge will make you free but his word onl! you will know them by their fruits!
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"baxter"
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Posted - 08/18/2009 : 5:02:03 PM
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Hi Bunny,
Two things come to my mind in your post.
1. Enochrull refers to "pride and self-knowledge", which implies that your understanding of God's word amounts to "self-knowledge" unless it is interpreted for you by Mike Peter's commentaries.
2. I find a common thread that those who tend toward a controlling personality are the ones who end up fitting in with this cult. I know another woman who lives there and her sister said she had a very controlling personality. In fact, that's the personality of the upper tier woman in the group.
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Bunny Bateman
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Posted - 08/25/2009 : 04:23:08 AM
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Still recently in touch with happenings in Indianapolis (CII-Cult in Indianapolis).
Some think I have a crudeness in my understanding of what is going on, however, there is a holy boldness that does not always need to be with phony love tones. Like when Jesus tipped over the money changer's table. HE was saying this is the way it is and we do not condone or sugar coat what is happening. The Lord tells us to discern the spirits. The sickening, phony things going on in the cult need to be spoken about as in turning over the tables. They are what they are. Mike Peters is leading a group of "followers" into destruction. As many as will see this, I PRAY will see the falseness. Number 1, I thank and praise God for those who have seen the truth and come out of the cult. I appreciate the testimonies of those who will openly and honestly tell others about what REALLY goes on. There are many people in the world who say marijuana is harmless, but if you will research it, you will see it IS harmful. I say this to say that the cult there is not just an innocent little thing that is going on. It is dangerous and it is leading many to eternal destruction. I do not hate the people there, I detest what they are doing.
Yes, I know one woman there by name that has exactly that. She has a very controlling personality and that is why she is used as one of the generals.
I also believe that many have seen the posts of the brave people who have come out and those many have stayed away from the group because of it. It is the kind of thing where we may meet them when we enter heaven.
I should quit babbling, but I will end this with, God is good and I love His Son Jesus who will bring us through all of this. He will bring comfort to us. We cannot MAKE them serve Jesus, but we can pray and God WILL answer a sincere prayer.
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Originally posted by "baxter"
Hi Bunny,
Two things come to my mind in your post.
1. Enochrull refers to "pride and self-knowledge", which implies that your understanding of God's word amounts to "self-knowledge" unless it is interpreted for you by Mike Peter's commentaries.
2. I find a common thread that those who tend toward a controlling personality are the ones who end up fitting in with this cult. I know another woman who lives there and her sister said she had a very controlling personality. In fact, that's the personality of the upper tier woman in the group.
"baxter"
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danrepent
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Posted - 09/06/2009 : 2:15:11 PM
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Did anyone see this site?
http://www.mikepetersindianapolis.com/
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We could sue those responsible for defamation of character and libel. We have been in contact with attorneys who have assured us that despite the lax standards of the Internet we have a legitimate case for defamation. Recent high-profile cases of "cyber-bullying" have brought the kind of online attacks we have faced to the forefront of public awareness, and people are beginning to understand that we cannot continue to function as a free society if we allow individuals to do what has been done to us. Two prominent Chicago libel and defamation lawyers would like to litigate this immediately, since precedent indicates that the recent hate-crime actions of this small handful of criminal and immoral malcontents, disfellowshipped over the last 22 years, are easily prosecutable for many millions of dollars.
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"baxter"
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Posted - 09/08/2009 : 02:13:32 AM
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Yes, DanRepent, I have seen this. Do you REALLY think Mike would risk public exposure to his group? There are SO many people that have since encountered them that also see the strange peculiarities of the group. The last thing a cult wants is to bring in exposure.
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danrepent
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Posted - 09/08/2009 : 1:03:05 PM
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Mike Peters would do anything to save himself. He denies our salvation because we oppose his teachings. He acts like some sort of Pope. "Come out of her", says the Lord.
We have two things going for us:
1.) Freedom of Speach
2.) The Truth
Mike Peters doesn't understand the power of truth, he has not used this in over 20 years.
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danrepent
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"baxter"
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Posted - 11/15/2009 : 11:35:26 PM
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It is my understanding that they don't even meet much publicly anymore. It is now smaller groups that not only share a meal, but have a steady diet of Mike's teachings ("please hold the scriptures"}. It's sad that that is it for the church in Indianapolis. I wouldn't be surprised if some of those people haven't talked to another soul outside their little group in Indianapolis for the past several years. And even within their group contact is limited. I think some of their pictures on the new jesuslifetogether.com website is when the "whole" church took a trip to Wyoming (you know how no one can do anything alone). What you see in the pictures (outside of the minimal visits to another country) is the size of their group in Indianapolis in 25 plus years.
In more than a years time on youtube the first video has had 677 hits. Not too many for this monumental world changer. Ya think?
1 Mike Peters Indianapolis all at His feet allatHisfeet.com
Video 1 of 54 Consuming Zeal for the Father's House Introduction part 1—The challenge to be a Hebrews 11 person...to look around at the world that ...
no rating 1 year ago 677 views allatHisfeet
And it dwindles down considerably after that...
2 Mike Peters Indianapolis all at His feet allatHisfeet.com
as in Hebrews 11. If you don't have a consuming zeal for the Father's house...the rest of these videos will be meaningless to you. Mike Peters all ...
no rating 1 year ago 166 views allatHisfeet
dwindle...
(16 of 54) Consuming Zeal for the Father's House Mike Peters
Video 16 of 54 The humility required to allow all of the members to contribute from the least to the greatest. "Ekklesia" means church. Mike ...
no rating 1 year ago 102 views allatHisfeet
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(26 of 54) Consuming Zeal for the Father's House Mike Peters
Video 26 of 54 Is there dependence on a few or on one leader? Mike Peters all at His feet www.allatHisfeet.com
no rating 1 year ago 63 views allatHisfeet
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(39 of 54) Consuming Zeal for the Father's House Mike Peters
Video 39 of 54 What about the children? Mike Peters all at His feet www.allatHisfeet.com
no rating 1 year ago 42 views allatHisfeet
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46 all at His feet Consuming Zeal allatHisfeet Mike Peters
Video 46 of 54 Do you have shared property? Are you a non-profit organization Mike Peters all at His feet www.allatHisfeet.com
no rating 1 year ago 33 views allatHisfeet
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